May 21 Podcast #1000
It's our 1000th episode so we thought it would be fun to go down memory lane. It has been so much fun getting to know all of you. Some we know well and have developed personal relationships with. Others came and went as things in their lives changed. To Industry members, thank you for your support! To our listeners, thank you for subscribing, downloading and listening to our show. It's because of you that we are here today and will be here tomorrow!
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1000 Episodes in Review
It's our 1000th episode so we thought it would be fun to go down memory lane. It has been so much fun getting to know all of you. Some we know well and have developed personal relationships with. Others came and went as things in their lives changed. To Industry members, thank you for your support! To our listeners, thank you for subscribing, downloading and listening to our show. It's because of you that we are here today and will be here tomorrow!
There was a big gap in our records between 2005 and 2007. We switched to Google Docs in 2007 and have been able to keep everything we wrote archived there.
But from memory some highlights were:
- We became the official podcast of AVS Forum and were introduced to members at their CES Party
- We had an affiliation with HDTV Magazine
- Met Mark Cuban (owner of HDNet at the time) and Interviewed the President of Syntax-Brillian at the HDTV Conference in Beverly Hills
- Dolby Flew us to San Francisco to demo some of their projects they were working on. While there we recorded two shows of their now defunct Dolby podcast
- Oppo and Monoprice were big supporters of the show early on as was Olevia TVs
- Sonos - The first real product we reviewed on the show back in 2005
- A few of our day job colleagues mocked us for doing a podcast. LOL jokes on them
HT Guys TV Tech Timeline
Braden
(Sony CRT...) -> Panasonic Plasma 480p EDTV -> JVC LCoS 1080p Rear Projection -> Epson 1080p Projector(s) -> (Lots of 4k TCLs) -> Sony 4k LED
Ara
RCA CRT -> Samsung DLP-> Panasonic Plasma & JVC Projector-> Vizio 4K TV & Optoma UST
Reviews of all the Rear Projection TVs from 2007 - JVC HD-61FN97 61" HD-ILA Our bottom line at the time - The JVC HD-61FN97 is an excellent value. It looks great, does a wonderful job with HD content, a great job with DVDs and a pretty good job with standard definition TV. Blacks are good, contrast is solid, colors are excellent and detail is vivid. We try to look for great values to help you (and us for that matter) get a little more out of each hard earned dollar. You'd be hard pressed to find a better looking 61" TV at its price. At an online street price of $2125 this is an awesome TV for the money. It really helps bring the big screen home.
Our first mention of home automation was in March of 2007. We wrapped up our discussion with - One day home automation will be standard. We'll wonder what people ever did without them. But for now your options are somewhat limited. You can spend a lot of money to get it custom built and done just right, with a system like Crestron, AMX or Control4, or you can try to put it together yourself if you don't mind the occasional hiccup that comes with a home made system. This can be one of the most fun home projects you've ever worked on. And it lasts forever - it's the gift that just keeps on giving.
Our earliest “Kaleidescape Killer” comment was also in 2007 when we showcased a $2500 Linux based machine with full DVR and DVD server capabilities. The company was called Interact-TV and they are no longer in business.
Our Top Ten shows in HD from 2007:
Ara:
- American Idol (Fox)
- Dancing with the Stars (ABC)
- Football/Basketball/Sports Center/Etc on ESPN
- Planet Earth/Sunrise Earth (Discovery HD Theater)
- Lost (ABC)
- CSI Miami (CBS)
- CSI (CBS)
- Bikini Destinations (HD Net)
- Heroes (NBC)
- NHL Hockey on HD Net
Braden:
- The Unit (CBS)
- Las Vegas (NBC)
- Numb3rs (CBS)
- Monday Night Football (ESPN)
- Lakers Basketball on KCAL
- 24 (Fox)
- I Shouldn't Be Alive (Discovery HD)
- Destination HD (Discovery HD)
- Planet Earth (Discovery HD)
- CSI Miami (CBS)
SlingMedia VS Major League Baseball
Issue: Slingboxes infringe on the local cable company's right to broadcast the content.
Interactive TV
Still not a thing
DVDpedia
In an attempt to build a video server or “Kaleidescape Killer” out of a Mac Mini Ara used DVDpedia to catalog and display album art and id3 data about his library. It worked OK but was quickly abandoned for Boxee and then eventually Plex. Plex is indeed the Kaleidescape Killer!
Vudu Movie Download Set Top Box ($399) - October 2007
What we liked:
- High quality movies on demand
- Large selection with more coming every week
- Easy to use remote and easy menu navigation
- Up and running in five minutes
What we disliked:
- No lease option to defray $400 entry price
- Not a large selection of Dolby 5.1
- Downloads interfered with VOIP telephone service
Bottom Line:
This is the best home video on demand system the HT Guys have seen. The video quality is first rate! The user interface is clean and simple. You will have the system up and running in no time. All of this is with the initial release of the system software. With more movie releases coming, HD, external storage, and new software updates this product will only get better. At $400 for the Vudu box its not for everyone, but you will get a very good video on demand system for the investment.
HDDVD - Bluray - a comparison
Conclusion
Blu-ray clearly has an advantage in specs, higher storage capacity and higher maximum bitrate. HD-DVD seems to hold the edge in "market readiness" if that's a real term. All the features you want were required in the spec from the beginning, so you know your player supports it. Man it would be nice if the studios would create discs in both formats so we didn't have to buy two players...
Netflix Watch Instantly Technology
Minimum Requirements
- Computer running Windows XP with Service Pack 2 or higher, or Windows Vista
- Internet Explorer version 6 or higher
- Windows Media Player version 11 (DRM version 5145) or later
- An active broadband connection to the Internet
- 1.0 GHz processor
- 512 MB RAM
- 3 GB free hard disk drive space
Recommended in addition to minimum requirements
- An active broadband Internet connection of at least 1.5 Mbps
- 1.5 GHz processor
- 1 GB RAM
The Death of Rear Projection TVs - Jan 2008
Harmony One Universal Remote - As with any Harmony remote, the One is a great choice for your home theater. It's new, sexy and easy to use. The touchscreen is cool and the larger buttons make it a bit easier to use. But overall it doesn't represent a huge departure from the 880. Of course we're gadget freaks, so we'll both be using them, but if you want to save some money, the 880 remains a great option. Bang for the buck, the 880 is still probably the way to go. For the coolness factor, the One is where it's at.
Mobile Digital TV Standard - Although ATSC 3.0 has a provision for this most people are just using IPTV over the Cell Networks
Orb Speaker Review - we did a review of these cool spherical speakers that sounded pretty good at the time. The cost for a 5.1 system was $1597 in June of 2008. The company is still around and today you can get an improved 5.1 system for $740.
Is TidalTV the Next Big Thing? - a new service that mimics the Cable or Satellite experience over the Internet. So the answer is No and Yes! This was in 2008
Popcorn Hour A-100 Review
Not a week goes by that we don't hear something about the Popcorn Hour A-100 network media player. We tried relentlessly to get a demo unit for review, but to no avail. Finally, slightly weary but committed whole-heartedly to the show, Ara decided to pony up the cash and purchase one. It arrived last week and we got a chance to play with it. All in all, not a bad little unit.
If you want an inexpensive network media player that can play anything, the Popcorn Hour is the best we've seen so far. It requires some IT expertise to get it up and running and to use it on a day-to-day basis, but it works like a champ. Even streaming 1080p HD content over the network looked good, granted it was all that was happening on the network at the time, but it still looked good. If you want something with a little more visual appeal, stick with AppleTV, the PS3 or the Xbox 360 (or Vudu when it adds local network playback). But all of those options are a bit more expensive and not quite as flexible.
Vudu HDX Movies
Black Friday Roundup 2008
- Panasonic Viera 50" 720p Plasma HDTV 899.99 min 10 per store
- Sony 40" 1080p LCD HDTV & Sony Blu-Ray Player Bundle (Model # KDL40V4100 and BDPS350) - $1,199.98
- Sony Blu-ray Player (BDP-S350) -- $179 (with a firmware upgrade and a 1 GB USB stick this will be come BD Live Compliant)
- Mitsubishi 65" Home Theater 1080p DLP HDTV (Model # WD65735) - $1,199.99
IPTV - Can it replace Cable and Satellite?
Note- This was us just talking about the subject LONG (2009) before it was even dreamed of in it's current state -
If you had to, you could cut the cord between you and your cable company and not miss a beat. But in reality if you won't have the same video quality. The other thing to consider is that the Cable or Satellite box has an simple well understood interface. Connecting a computer to the TV requires using a keyboard and a mouse and there are no channel numbers. You'll have to bookmark your sites. Companies like Apple, Netflix and Boxee are all trying to provide a ten foot interface that is Grandma proof but we still have a ways to go. Finally, cable companies are not going to be happy with subscribers that watch a lot of Internet streamed content. So even if the quality improved you may not be able to stream a months worth of TV into your home. If you are a light TV watcher that is computer savvy then you may be able to cut the cable cord completely. But in actually, for most of us, IPTV is a good way to augment what we already have. If you are on the road you can watch something on your terms. If you forget to record something then its a great backup. Its also a great way to watch old TV shows that are no longer aired.
What if AppleTV Replaced my DVR?
The concept at this point in time was to buy subscriptions to your favorite TV show. But as we see today, that’s not even required. Plus we now have boxes from Apple, Google, Amazon and Roku. It's safe to say that the AppleTV type STBs have replaced the DVR
Zune HD
The Zune HD is a powerful portable media device. It has a beautiful OLED screen, small form factor, smooth touch screen menus, and wonderful 720p output to a TV. However, for Microsoft to steal some iPod users, more apps and video content need to be available in the Zune Marketplace. The Zune HD has solid hardware that is almost as sexy as the iPod. What would make this device perfect for a home theater would be Hulu and Netfilx support. Microsoft has also stated that they will release games for the Zune HD, since Xbox Live and the Zune Marketplace already seem to be linked, the possibility of it being a good portable gaming device are great. The Zune HD is a solid device. With future updates it may take a run at the iPod's dominance in the market.
RedEye Universal Remote Control (MSRP $190) 2010 - This remote eliminated the need to be in the same room with your gear and will work with your iPod Touch or iPhone.
LED TV Technology was just coming on the scene in 2010
Quartics(2010)
Quartics Inc. is a semiconductor company based in Irvine, CA, with offices in India, China and Taiwan. Quartics was formed in 2003 to focus on semiconductor architecture for video-based media, aiming to overcome a raft of modern digital challenges. To date, the company has been granted 10 patents, with 40 pending, in media processing architecture, video and graphics processing and QoS algorithms.
We don’t know if these patents were sold or even used. But the company does not seem to be in business any longer
Life|ware
Today as part of our ongoing series on home automation we discuss Life|ware. Life|ware™ is software developed by Exceptional Innovation that allows you to seamlessly merge control of your home along with your world of digital entertainment.
Life|ware lets you control your home through your TV with a Media Center PC, Media Center Extender or Xbox 360™, from your home or office PC or notebook, or from a Life|point touch screen. You can even use your iPhone or iPod Touch and iPad as a Life|ware client with full two-way functionality.
One of the biggest draws to Life|ware is that it works with numerous third party devices. Life|Ware provides bridges to lighting, HVAC, Media and more. The system will go from IP to IR, RF, or RS-232. Life|ware is OS agnostic as well. The control software will run on Windows, Mac OS, and LINUX machines. But if you don’t want to mess with loading the software on your own equipment Life|Ware sells a complete line of home automation controllers, servers, and bridges.
We can’t find a trace of this company any longer. It may have been sold or merged
Are High End Audio/Video Retailers a Dying Breed?
“If the AV business cannot more clearly illustrate why specialty audio is in fact special, then expect more stores and regional chains to fold in the coming months even as the economy improves, simply perhaps fueled by the fact that mainstream home theater gear is just too good.“
Crystal LED HDTV Technology
So when can I have one and how much will it cost? Sony isn’t answering any of these questions. Our hunch is that it will cost about what an OLED TV will cost. And if Sony wants this technology to have a chance it needs to come out at about the same time as OLED. We know that Samsung will be releasing their OLEDs in the second half of the year. Our prediction is that you will be able to buy a Crystal LED TV from Sony by the summer of 2013 and it will run about $6,000.
The best we can tell is that this tech never made it into consumer TVs. Sony still has a page dedicated to it but more in the commercial side of it's business.
Revolv Home Automation Hub 1/2013
The beginning of the “Year of Automation” The best we can tell is that Revolv was bought by Nest and lives on in their products
Conclusion
When we first learned about a device that could unify all the various home automation and control devices out there we were sceptical. But after putting the Revolv Home Automation Hub through its paces, we can say, yes you can control everything regardless who makes it. Well maybe not everything yet. But we are sure the engineers at Revolv are working diligently to make that happen!
Is a 7.1 System Worth it?
Bottom Line - A properly installed 7.1 system with 7.1 content will take your home theater to the next level. You will definitely be able to hear a difference, especially with good content like the movie Super 8 . However, if you are not watching Blu-rays or your room doesn’t support proper placement of the rear surround channels, a better approach would be to upgrade your 5.1 system or just save the money.
This was from 2013. Consistent with our ATMOS recommendations too
Netflix SuperHD (6/2013)
Netflix SuperHD claims to provide superior 1080p video quality for the same price as regular streaming. But not everyone is eligible.
Requirements
- Netflix Super HD requires an internet connection with at least 5Mb/s download. Not all devices can play Super HD. Super HD is only available via Internet Providers that are part of the Open Connect network.
- Supported devices include Sony PlayStation 3, Apple TV with 1080p, Roku with 1080p, Nintendo Wii U, Windows 8 App, TiVo Premiere DVR Blu-Ray Players, Smart TV's, Home Theaters, and Streaming Players with existing Netflix 1080p support
Bottom Line
Netflix is really pushing the streaming frontiers and they have come a long way. We can now sit on our couch on any given evening and find a high quality movie at a moment's notice. We anxiously await the day when we will be able to stream Blu-ray quality movies whenever we want. From what we have seen that day is not too far away!
Is Blu-ray a Dead Format? Also from 6/2013
Ask anyone who knows something about home theater what is the highest quality audio and video available to mere mortals today and they will tell you Blu-ray. Blu-ray video is stunning and the audio is simply amazing. But we don’t have to tell you that. So does Blu-ray have a future? The following are some reasons why Blu-ray may not be around for too much longer.
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Time to Bury Blu-ray?
Its probably too early to put the last nail in the Blu-ray coffin right now. There needs to be one or two more paradigm shifts before Blu-ray goes away. The first is the studios realizing that DRM is more hassle than it is worth. Once this hurdle is crossed in-store Kiosks or online downloads will soar. Prices will come down and the world will be saved from all that plastic being created. The second is a jump in online speeds. Once gigabit Internet is ubiquitous there will be a shift to storing content in online lockers and again the world will be saved. The big question is when? Based on what we are seeing we are betting on within 5 years.
ZyXEL 500 Mb/s Fast Ethernet Powerline Wall-Plug Adapter
We reviewed almost a dozen powerline Ethernet adapters. They never achieved their advertised speeds, but they did work and depending on what you needed them to do they were an excellent solution. However, with faster mesh network Wifi it's not really a thing any longer.
Aereo
In April of 2014 we interviewed a broadcaster who opposed our stance on Aero’s business plan. He felt Aero was making money off of the local broadcasters. We felt Aero was providing a service to allow us the viewer to watch our local stations. The Courts agreed with the broadcaster. But today we have Locast. And so far they have been in business for a couple of years.
SmartThings Home Automation Hub
And so continues the many years of “The Year of Automation”. This was before Samsung bought the company. A full year after we kicked off the “Year of Automation”
Pono Player (1/2015)
Neil Young's "high resolution" PonoPlayer is on sale for $400. PonoPlayer, a triangular portable music player that promises only the highest of fidelities.
We were Skeptics from the beginning:
The point is that you don't need fancy hardware to make music sound good, and that no amount of hardware will make your ears hear better than the limits of biology and physics.
Ara’s first DIY Speaker project was in Jan 2015
Axiim Q Wireless Home Theater System 2/2016
The first Wisa system we reviewed. We are happy to say it's still around today!
Conclusion
Many of our listeners have asked us to recommend wireless solutions for their home theater over the years. We have tested and rejected all but a few and the acceptable solutions still required some speaker wire from an external amp. Not exactly wireless! The Axiim Q Wireless Home Theater System is the first one that delivers on the promise of a truly wireless system that is simple to install, looks fantastic and sounds great! We hate having to send it back! It would be so easy to bring 5.1 to your master bedroom that we are seriously thinking about buying one!
What is HDR? (4/2016)
To Sum it Up
- Getting the best picture from an HDR TV will require HDR content.
- To guarantee your TV will support HDR look for the “Ultra HD Premium” label.
- If you really want a UHD TV that does not have the “Ultra HD Premium” label buy a TV that has or comes close to 1000 nits brightness.
- HDR from cable, satellite, and OTA are still a bit off.
We will stop here in 2016 because we’ll save some for the next 1000 shows. Along the way we have had dozens of interviews, product reviews, buying guides, and lists that were not mentioned in this episode. Some weeks we struggled to come up with show ideas, some weeks we had too many. But we always managed to have a show ready for your Friday morning commute.
Reader Comments (2)
Hi guys, I thought the intro for the 1,000 show was really awesome. I think I've listened to all most every show over the years. I'd like to congratulate you guys on your 1, 000th episode. I appreciate all the time, effort and money you have put in to your podcast. Lots of luck in your journey towards the next 1000 episodes.
Glenn
Thank you Glenn!