Apr 27 Podcast #841: OLED Burn-in Follow Up
We asked our listeners - who are also OLED owners - to give us their own direct experience with OLED, especially related to burn-in. We got some great feedback. Maybe it'll change your mind on buying an OLED. Or maybe not.
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OLED Burn-in Follow Up
Christopher - As per episode #840 - I have a 55" Sony A1E that I purchased 9 months ago. I had it professionally calibrated and love it completely (except for the stupid swing-out base that they've done away with in the new model). I primarily watch movies (Opportunity UDP-203), Apple TV, TiVo and Netflix. I do not play games on it. No burn-in issues what-so-ever... so far... ;)
Scruffy - Have a 2014 LG OLED with 8000 hours. Strictly cable box viewing, a few hours at a time throughout the day 7 days a week. No image retention or burn in issues ever. Getting a 55" 2018 OLED soon - no worries.
Jack - I heard your recent debate about OLED burn-in. To me there is no debate. I purchased an oled65b6p in the fall of 2016. By summer of 2017, I started noticing something wrong. After a little investigation it was clear I had serious BI issues from watching MSNBC. In the attached red picture you can see where the old lower third was burnt in and can still read “live”, they recently lowered the banner when the news ticker was eliminated. I see this most on reds yellows and shades of tan. Skin tone is really bad. Also, note the prominent left side of the NBC peacock (red orange yellow) in the yellow pictures.
I contacted LG and they told me it is not covered by the warranty. I also contacted Abt where I bought the set and to their credit after a few rounds of negotiations they gave me a $1600 store credit (I paid $4K) and I’m keeping the bad tv for now. They initially offered a C7 LG OLED at a significant discount but I did not want to just end up with the same problem. I watch all sorts of programming but typically have the news on in the background while working which obviously caused this problem. The TV is great and near perfect (love the picture, the blacks and the HDR) but BI makes it unacceptable. I should not have to change my TV viewing habits because of issues with the technology especially when I pay top $$. It’s going to take me a while to find a suitable replacement which is why I’m keeping this one for now.
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Steven - I have a LG OLED55B6P I purchased about a year and a half ago. We have primary used it to watch shows and movies. Even after this time, I still find myself on a weekly basis noticing how beautiful the picture is. I tell people my two favorite types of scenes are those with tons of color and black scenes.
On the burn in issue, I have not noticed any issues. We probably have the unit on for five to six hours throughout the day. Though the types of content is dynamic (little to no tickers or other static elements).
However, literally two weeks before your episode about the OLED burn in issue dropped I started to play my Nintendo Switch on the television. I am currently only playing Mario Odyssey. This game has dynamic content on the screen except for a coin counter in the upper left of the screen. Though it does go off during cut scene. At this point I have not noticed any burn in.
Steven (a different Steven) - I purchased an LG OLED65B7A in early November 2017. Even though I owned a beautiful 55” Samsung Plasma about 5 years ago, I consider this the best TV picture I’ve ever had.
I don’t regret purchasing it for 1 nanosecond. For two years, I was unhappy with a Sony LCD TV that dimmed from the side and had uneven blacks. The OLED is amazing. When I walk by it and look at if from the side it warms my heart. It’s perfect.
I’ve only had the TV for about 5 months, but have not seen any evidence of burn in. That being said, I do not watch CNN or CNBC for hours a day or play video games. I do watch a fair amount of sports.
Here is what CNET said on April 17th, 2018 about OLED burn-in:
"All things considered, however, burn-in shouldn't be a problem for most people. That's why we at CNET continue to recommend OLED-based TVs, phones and other devices in our reviews. From all of the evidence we've seen, burn-in is typically caused by leaving a single, static image element, like a channel logo, on-screen for a very long time, repeatedly. That's an issue if you keep Fox News, ESPN or MSNBC on-screen for multiple hours every day and don't watch enough other programming, for example. But as long as you vary what's displayed, chances are you'll never experience burn-in.”
I did a lot of research about this before I purchased the TV and although some burn-in is permanent, I’ve heard a number of people say that apparent burn-in does repair itself sometimes.
I think seeing burn-in is to be expected if Best Buy leaves the same picture on during business hours for day after day after day.
But I will say this, if Braden is going to let his kids use the OLED for video games many hours a day, he should probably get a crappy LCD for them. And believe me LCD looks like crap compared to my OLED. No contest. However, I think CNET”s implication is that even if Braden’s kids play a number of hours per day on a video game, watching normal content a few hours a day will make burn-in unnoticeable.
Reader Comments (1)
On the subject of "New LED Cinema Screen" I was thinking about the cost to run them. Would its power requirements versus the projectors be higher. What if a panel fails? Is it easier or faster to fix than a projector?
Thanks for doing what you guys do!