Sep 27 Podcast #602: Cerwin Vega VE Series Speakers
Ara was looking for a use for his Harman-Kardon receiver that was put out to pasture by his Denon. He figured why not put a surround system in his master bedroom. All that was needed was five speakers since he also had a subwoofer that was put out to pasture by his Hsu VTF-3 MK4. A lot of devices get put out to pasture in the Derderian household. Since this was so far beyond what Ara’s wife wanted in the bedroom the cost had to be very affordable.
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Cerwin Vega VE Series Speakers
Ara was looking for a use for his Harman-Kardon receiver that was put out to pasture by his Denon. He figured why not put a surround system in his master bedroom. All that was needed was five speakers since he also had a subwoofer that was put out to pasture by his Hsu VTF-3 MK4. A lot of devices get put out to pasture in the Derderian household. Since this was so far beyond what Ara’s wife wanted in the bedroom the cost had to be very affordable.
So Ara searched around online looking for good speakers that didn’t break the bank. Many 5.1 systems met the criteria but included a subwoofer. So rather than buy one of those and simply give the subwoofer away, he looked for speakers that were sold as separates or at least pairs. He stumbled across the Cerwin Vega VE series and it met all the criteria, size, price, and sound quality. Well if you believe user comments on Amazon for the sound quality part. Regardless, remembering the name Cerwin Vega from when Ara was a little kid he took a chance on it and bought four bookshelf (Buy Now $129 a Pair) and one center channel (Buy Now $99) speakers.
For those who have never heard of Cerwin Vega it was started by Gene Czerwinski in 1954. Gene was an aerospace engineer who loved music. Today Cerwin Vega is owned by The Stanton Group.
Specifications
The speakers themselves have pretty decent specs:
VE 5C (Center Channel)
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Frequency Response: 60 Hz - 20 kHz
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Power Capacity: 150 watts
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Sensitivity (1w/1m): 91 dB
VE 5M (Bookshelf)
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Frequency Response: 60 Hz - 20 kHz
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Power Capacity: 125 watts
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Sensitivity (1w/1m): 89 dB
These speakers are pretty efficient which makes it easier for your receiver to drive them. They are also fairly compact and can easily placed in smaller rooms. The bookshelves measure:
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Dimensions (DxWxH) - 6.1” x 7.2” x 10.3” 154.9 mm x 183 mm x 261.6 mm
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Weight - 7 lbs 3.2 kgs
The center channel measures:
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Dimensions (DxWxH) - 7.2” x 15” x 6.1” 182.8 mm x 381 mm x 154.9 mm
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Weight - 11 lbs 5 kgs
Performance
We didn’t really have high expectations because of the price and use case. Really, how high fidelity do you need for a bedroom surround system? But we were pleasantly surprised! The first thing we did was listen to music without the subwoofer so we were worried that having the speakers only go down to 60 hz may eliminate some of the boom in modern music. They do a good job with the low end but if you have some modern music with a heavy bass track you will need a subwoofer. Beyond that, the bass sounds remarkably full for such a small cabinet. On the high frequencies everything sounded crisp and bright. Maybe even a bit too bright.
Watching movies was a lot of fun because we typically don’t get to watch in surround in our bedrooms. You may think this is total overkill and we probably agree but what else are you going to do with spare equipment. Dialog was clear and easy to make out, surround effects added a new dimension to watching a movie or TV show before going to bed. But with as good as this all sounds, what really brought it home was the subwoofer. In most cases you can probably go with L,C,R and a subwoofer and be totally happy.
Conclusion
While we are extremely happy with these speakers we are not going to swap them out in our main rooms. But if you are just starting out or have a small room that needs a 5.1 system you will be much better served buying these plus a subwoofer over any home theater in a box system. Side note: Ara was going to go wireless for the surround system but he could not find one that performed without annoying pops and cracks. In the end he wired up the surrounds by stringing cable all the way around the room with channel tracks attached to the baseboards. More on that in a future show.
Reader Comments (5)
CV for the longest time were known as a car audio company. Looks like they're making the plunge into the home theater market. I know this because I used to sell them for my dad's shop when I was younger, I knew a lot about the car audio market at the time, obviously now I don't since it's no longer open. I wouldn't be suprised to see more car audio makers make the move into the HT market.
I would have gotten 5 of these:
http://www.harmanaudio.com/Search_Browse/product_detail.asp?urlMaterialNumber=P143BK&status=
infinity primus 2 way bookshelf with an excellent tweeter, $60 each free shipping
loved the show and keep it up!
Curious why you didn't go with more of the Hsu speakers to go with their subwoofer.
Realize there are almost an infinite number of choices.
Scott,
These speakers are in my master bedroom where cost was a big factor. The Hsu subwoofer is in my media room.
Ara
Ara and Braden,
Ara's weight problem is the same problem I'm experiencing. I think it starts in the 40's somewhere. I held it off for a while by playing a lt of tennis and basketball but, at 50, my arm fell of and fun exercise became a problem. Now, I'm the same as Ara. Losing 20 pounds would be a wonderful thing.
Seems to me there is a little too much assumption that internet is as fast and wonderful all over the country as in large urban areas so streaming and so on will grow so strongly that 70% of TV's will be internet connected. I'm moving out of the San Fernando Valley and away from my fiber optic network to the rural area around a pretty good sized city but the only internet connection available is either DSL (so slow as to be useless) or Verizon hot spot which is so limited and so expensive that all I will be able to do is follow baseball scores. The salesman at the Verizon store said that even Call Of Duty online gaming will be out as apparently it's a much more data intensive process than I ever imagined. Pretty sure we're talking about probably 80% of the country being in this boat. That's why Netflix will never go broke due to streaming. Ara, good chance you will be in this boat, too, if you move to Texas.
The networks are already practicing their product placement last week. On Bones they mentioned watching Sleepy Hollow and on The Neighbors, toward the end, they said they would have to hurry because Shark Tank was coming on in four minutes. Why not product of a more substantial nature?
iTunes Radio is the best! Being about 10 years older than Ara I love both the Classic 60's and the 80's New Wave, which I loved because the 2.5 minute songs reminded me of the British Invasion era (The Beatles got huge while I was at Osceola Elementary in Sylmar).
When Braden talks about Apple products he sounds like I did in high school when I swore I'd never own a Honda motorcycle. When I got a used '69 Honda CB450 I realized why people were so enamored of Honda. And the way Braden talks about Apple sounds a lot like the way I used to talk about Honda, even when trying to sound nice about it.
Ah, Cerwin Vega! Working in bands in the 70's CV is remembered (by me) as the speaker we all wanted for our PA's.